Diskutiere neuer WRANGLER JL im JEEP Wrangler JL, JLU Forum im Bereich Wrangler; das Netz ist derzeit voll mit Videos aus Detroit und LA ein gelungenes Auto mit diversen Features. hoffentlich kommt er auch so nach...

  1. #1 Eagle Eye, 30.11.2017
    Eagle Eye

    Eagle Eye auch mal nach vorne gucken

    Dabei seit:
    das Netz ist derzeit voll mit Videos aus Detroit und LA

    ein gelungenes Auto mit diversen Features.

    hoffentlich kommt er auch so nach Deutschland.
    aber wahrscheinlich werden wir nur die abgespeckten Versionen erhalten.

    was haltet Ihr von dem Neuen ??
  2. #2 Little Willy, 30.11.2017
    Little Willy

    Little Willy "TIME BANDIT"

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  3. #3 fsunderp, 01.12.2017

    fsunderp Newbie

    Dabei seit:
    Ich finde insbesondere die neue Anordnung von den Knöpfen für Differentialsperren und Sway Bar Disconnect sehr gelungen. Endlich in Sicht, schalten ohne fummliges Suchen hinter dem Lenkrad. Die werksseitig verbauten Schalter für Zusatzgedöns sind auch sinnvoll. Nettes Feature ist die Durchführung für das Kabel der Winsch im Haubenverschluss.

    Innenraum ist sonst... Naja. Das rote Dashboard ist Geschmackssache, die flachere Frontscheibe auch. Die umklappbare Scheibe hätte man sich auch sparen können, auch wenn es jetzt einfacher ist. Was die breitere Heckklappe bringt wird man sehen. Die Tagfahrlichter im Kotflügel sind für den A...

    Ich hoffe nur, dass der Rubicon auch in Deutschland ohne Umbauten 35er verträgt.

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  4. Alfred

    Alfred Don't feed the Trolls ...

    Dabei seit:
    Da ich schon die ersten Signale hoere .... [​IMG]

    Aus dem JL Forum ...
    Viel Spass beim lesen und bitte nicht ganz so ernst nehmen .... [​IMG]

    A Practical Guide to Hating New Jeeps: How to Establish Your Jeep as the Last Great Jeep (JK Owners Edition)

    Hello JK owners! First let me say congratulations. There is now a Jeep that is newer than yours. As I’m sure you all know, every Jeep newer than the generation that you own is an abomination that must be shunned. For the last 11 years it was YOU the JK owners that carried the burden of having the shitty new Jeep. But now, with the reveal of the new JL Wrangler you no longer are stuck with the worst Jeep ever made! However, it’s not time to celebrate yet. There’s a lot of work to be done before you’re truly ready to pass the torch of shame on to the next generation.

    CJ, YJ, and TJ owners have all gone through this process before and now it’s your turn to join us in the traditional hating of the new Jeep! To help you though this exciting and emotional time I have prepared this simple step by step guide on how exactly to hate new Jeeps while establishing the JK as the last truly great Jeep.

    Step 1 - Announce the death of Jeep:

    The first step is the most important. Jeep has suffered many deaths over the its 76 year existence. In a futile and foolish attempt to keep up with market and regulatory demands, Jeep’s many owners made various changes to the very core and soul of Jeep itself ultimately leading to the total death and failure of the brand.

    These announcements usually take the form of “Jeep died in _______ when _______ took over and made the ________.”

    Let’s look at a few examples of past deaths:

    "Jeep died in 1970 when AMC took over and made the CJ-7."
    "Jeep died in 1987 when Chrysler took over and made the YJ."
    "Jeep died in 1997 when Daimler took over and made the TJ."
    "Jeep died in 2007 when Chrysler took over again and made the JK."

    So now say it with me, “Jeep died in 2018 when Fiat took over and made them make the JL.”
    Now of course some people may not understand why a new model immediately marks the death of Jeep. That's why we need to explain it to them in simple terms.

    Step 2 - Develop a rallying cry:

    Every new Jeep has changes. Everyone hates changes. Choose what you believe is the most egregious of these changes and form your campaign behind it. The fact that the new Jeep has or doesn’t have this feature means that it isn’t a real Jeep. This will be your rallying cry. Put it on bumper stickers, in your signature, your flair, or in the posts you make. Let’s take a look at some past examples:

    Real Jeeps have round headlights!
    Real Jeeps have two doors!
    Real Jeeps don’t have air conditioning!
    Real Jeeps have leaf spring suspension!
    Real Jeeps don’t have power locks and windows!

    Now let’s try some of our own,
    Real Jeeps don’t have an 8 speed transmission!
    Real Jeeps don’t have LED fender lights!
    Real Jeeps don’t have an electric drivetrain!
    Here we’ve established what makes the new Jeep an objectively terrible vehicle, however not everyone will be convinced by a simply catch phrase. That’s where step 3 comes in!

    Step 3 - Craft your long form rant:

    Express your displeasure at the dilution of the Jeep community. Establish blame for the death of Jeep. These statements serve the duel purpose of disparaging new Jeep owners and discouraging others from following in their footsteps. This one is easy. Just fill in the blanks.

    “These new (Model) owners. A bunch of (Group of people typically not associated with Jeep) and (Second Group of people not associated with Jeep)who care more about looks than capability. Jeeps were never meant to have (New feature) but these (Groups chosen before) won’t buy a car without them. What’s next? (Absurd luxury feature)? What happened to making the most capable vehicle they could make? You can’t even get a (Removed feature) anymore because most of these people won’t do any more off-roading than the grass at their local (Location popular with new generation’s current “hip” crowd). It’s not even a real Jeep anymore it’s just (Jeep brand’s current owner) trash. And they’re so expensive too. These people drop (Current MSRP, fully loaded) for what’s basically just a (modern vehicle generally viewed as "uncool") with the Jeep logo. And the ones who modify their Jeeps are just as bad. It’s all just bolt on (Low end parts supplier) bumpers and (Newest vehicle lighting technology) lights. All about appearance and nothing about substance. AND THEY NEVER WAVE!”

    See? it's easy when you can just reuse old arguments! Now that the Jeep world knows that you’re mad, what do you do?

    Step 4 - Attack the JL Owners:

    These people are ruining Jeep and they need to know it! They’re no better than people who bought the Compass. If you see one on this subreddit or elsewhere on other forums let them know that they don’t drive a real Jeep and aren’t [​IMG] here. I know it seems harsh but believe me, the only way to make sure the Jeep community survives is to make sure no new people are allowed in ever.
    Respond to simple questions with total distain. Downvote pictures of stock JLs or new purchases. Make sure nobody feels [​IMG]. Don’t tell them about the trails you like or offer to go off-roading with them. They are unworthy. If they wanted to get into Jeeps they should have done it the way you did it. You earned your Jeep. You scoured the earth looking for that perfect restorable Jeep. You spent countless hours rebuilding every nut and bolt from scratch. You didn’t just waltz into some dealership and finance some bland new car. You built your Jeep.*

    * Note: If you bought your JK new from a dealership then you should instead tell JL owners that they should have gone back in time and bought a new JK like you did.

    By now it should be clear to the JL people where they stand in the community. Now we need to make sure it stays that way.

    Step 5 - Maintain The New Status Quo:

    This may be the hardest part. As more and more JL owners begin to flood the roads and trails you need to make sure you stick to your guns. The new JL owners may seem nice. Their Jeeps may seem cool or even Jeep like but make no mistake, they are still driving an objectively worse vehicle than yours.

    NEVER concede that there are good things about the new Jeep. Avoid the mistakes others have made in the past such as:

    “Man I wish I had air conditioning in my Jeep.”
    “Coils do ride better on the road.”
    “Power locks actually sound pretty nice in cold weather.”
    “Your Jeep DOESN’T leak everywhere?”

    Saying nice things about the new Jeep should be seen as a sign of weakness. You’re not weak. You’re a JK owner.
    You may find yourself admiring the JL from afar. You may start reading great things on automotive websites. You may even feel a desire to test drive one yourself. Resist this temptation. The JK is the greatest Jeep ever made.

    I'm not going to lie to you dear JK owners, Step 5 is where most people fail. For years Jeep owners have tried to definitively prove that their Jeep is the last great Jeep, yet despite this Jeep sales continue stronger than ever. Maybe this can change with you. If enough people hate on the JL with enough forcefulness, you can not only make sure that people know that the JK is the last great Jeep, but make sure that the JK is also the last Jeep period.

    Which is what we all want… right?

    Quelle: JL-Forum

    schoenen 1. Advent und Frohe Weihnachten ...
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  5. #5 Danieljetzt, 08.12.2017

    Danieljetzt Auf D schalten

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    Draußen ist es dunkel und im Fernsehen kommt ja eh nur mist...

  6. #6 IndianJakysSpirit, 08.12.2017

    IndianJakysSpirit damals FlowerPower69 hier und im

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    Im Westerwald wird er sich bestimmt wohl fühlen :-);-)
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  7. #7 Schnoedewind, 10.12.2017

    Schnoedewind Member

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    Schon sehr amtliches Teil ... wenn dat nur nich immer so viel eckig Geld kosten würde .... :argh
  8. #8 serviceulli, 03.01.2018

    serviceulli Member

    Dabei seit:
    ich find den nicht wirklich gelungen, eher softer im Aussehen und nicht Bissig genug. Hoffe nur das die Allgemeine Qualität besser wird, was ich bei den Ammis eher bezweifele :keule:
    Kumara gefällt das.
  9. jandet

    jandet Member

    Dabei seit:

    finde ihn auch ganz okay. Aber die Beleuchtung in den Kotflügel vorne geht gar nicht.
    Bin auch mal gespannt wie die EU Version dann wirklich aussieht.

    Gruß Jan
  10. Kumara

    Kumara Member

    Dabei seit:
    Ich finde der JL kommt der deutschen Defenition eines SUVs schon sehr nahe.
    Der in meinen Augen einzige Wrangler ist und war der YJ. Er war eckig und Kantig,
    mit den Blattfedern alles andere als Konfortabel. Halt ein richtiges "Männerauto" :-D
    Das Ende der richtigen Wrangler hat meiner Meinung nach der TJ eingeläutet, auch da wurden die formen schon "weicher".
    Das einzige was mir am JK wirklich gefallen hat, ist das "U", was gibt es cooleres, als ein 4-türiges Cabrio? :-)
    Beim JL/JLU gefallen mir die Kottflügel vorne mit den integrierten Leuchten überhaupt nicht, die Seitenansicht mit den subjektiv eigenartigen formen der Seitenscheiben und auch die Heckansicht, mit den leicht veränderten Renegade Rückleuchten sind nicht mein ding.........
    Aber ich bin für jedes Jeep Modell, was die Marke Jeep am Leben erhält, es sind schon zuviele Traditionshersteller vom Markt verschwunden, und ich muss ihn ja nicht Kaufen ^^
    Cooper1 gefällt das.
  11. #11 christian73, 02.03.2018

    christian73 STIFF-Master

    Dabei seit:
    ich schließe mich dem beitrag von KUMARA FAST an: der TJ gehört noch zur klassischen jeep-generation; vorallem, weil beim TJ noch ´klassische´ elemente verbaut wurden sind: der gute 6-zylinder reihe, wenig elektronik (im vergleich zu heute), noch nicht zuviel plastik. ab dem JK wurde der wrangler zur "SUV-katastrophe" und das sieht mit dem 2018er modell nicht anders aus. kurz gesagt: der Cj,Yj und auch noch der TJ werden klassiker... ab JK ist schluss damit;......leider..............


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